Post by joesixpack on Jan 30, 2019 19:53:41 GMT -5
It might be helpful to watch your rate of drinking and identify activities that empty the glass sooner, then keep your drink out of easy reach at those times (while you keep a NA drink close at hand). I live in a 2 story house and found it fairly easy to leave my beer downstairs in the fridge after each sip. I'd tell myself that I could go get another sip in 15 minutes, while I did a quick bit of research on the web, knocked out a small housekeeping task, etc. Pretty soon it automatically became half an hour, then an hour and eventually 2 hours. I'd get an urge to have a drink and I'd tell it "Ok, I'll get you a drink, just hold on a minute."
Mindfulness can be making it make you go grab your drink. Well, you know it's certainly present and moving you out of your chair then, so it's easier to feel and identify what's motivating you to go get that drink. It's a chance to observe yourself, kind of like you're in fly-on-the-wall mode.
"Oh... it's you again. Ok, ok, I'll get you a drink. In a minute."
Yeah, thanks joesixpack . I kinda started doing this 2 days before starting TSM and it's already been helpful. Even though I'm not keeping it in another room (yet) I have it out of reach where I have to get up and get it. I also went from drinking from a large glass/straight from the bottle to pouring shots. Originally this was for measurement purposes but I found it helps slow me down and helps me be more mindful. On top of that, when I have an urge, I pour the shot and then go do at least one more thing so I'm not just pouring and drinking.
Tonight I'm an hour into my "drinking session." I put that in quotes because it hasn't felt like a drinking session. Typically I would get home and try to get as much alcohol in my body as rapidly as possible. Instead I've had 2 shots. 2! In the past that would have been at least 4 and usually 6. And I'm feeling pretty meh about them. In fact I'm considering just making some food and heading to bed. I'm still fighting the lizard/habit so I'm not sure if that's what I'll do, but it's a pretty incredible feeling that there's no real will power or white knuckling to want to drink less. I just.. don't really feel like it.. my goal isn't necessarily abstinence. If it happens, fine, but I'm hoping to get to where I can have a beer or glass of wine without craving getting trashed on liquor. Things are looking pretty good so far. And tomorrow I start on the full dose of 50mg. I'm still a bit scared of what happens after the honeymoon period but I'm gonna keep at it.
Tonight's first update. Tomorrow is yet another dreaded day off, which means tonight is a dangerous night too. It's also my first night on 50mg of nal (up from 4 days of 25mg.). I took it a little under an hour before I left work, got the lightheaded feeling again but that was the only side effect. But a funny thing happened on the way home. I had a craving for a nice ipa! I used to love drinking a good beer and didn't really have a problem overdrinking with beer, but for years I've always "craved" going home and getting so drunk I couldn't speak.. it's been a long time since I wanted to drink just cause I liked the taste and not with the express intent of getting wasted. I know it's waaayy early in my TSM experience (in fact I'm a little concerned how quickly it feels like things are happening, honeymoon and all,) but it's already like tam is rolling back the years of my experiences drinking. 10 years ago I loved having 2 maybe 3 beers a night, and was good with that.
Post by runawaytrain on Jan 31, 2019 19:48:08 GMT -5
tokekin, I am the same way. I enjoy a nice tasting beer, but for a long time there, I just wanted to get as drunk as I could, so I would just get 99 Apple shooters and get wasted. I like the taste of beer and I always slow down on beer due to the bubbliness. My boyfriend and I had a tradition (that we might go back into) that we'd go to a huge liquor outlet and we'd make our own 6 pack. It was always fun because it's hard to jump from a white beer to an amber beer or from a pumpkin porter to a vanilla porter so it always slowed us down. Enjoy your ipa and keep up the good work!
Looking forward to a future worth remembering! I believe in you too!
tokekin- I had horrible side effects with day one of 25. Was worried I wouldn’t be able to tolerate it, it was so bad. Slowly worked up to 50 and within about a week or 10 days I felt pretty much nothing. I’m also experiencing cravings for lighter drinks (& fewer of them) and am acutely aware of the honeymoon thing as well. I guess it’s all part of the process... I’m promising myself complete compliance for a minimum of one year no matter what the ups and downs include. Anyway- you sound well! Keep it up! Cheers to hoping the honeymoon never ends...!
So yesterday was a weird day for me. I definitely fell into the hALt category. I had 13 drinks which is actually quite low for a day off but I was drunk allllll day. I even took a 2nd nal at 6 because I was worried about my morning one wearing off. I'm not sure if it was a net positive or negative because I drank less than typical but still "felt" the same as my pre-tsm days.
tokekin I have felt my tolerance it lower on Nal... I have to be careful cause I try to drink like I used to before Nal but am finding I don't need as much AL to get to the same place.. and I have had the dreaded Nal-over which is brutal..
for the ones who continue, failure becomes impossible. And success becomes inevitable..
It was a net postive, tokekin. You drank less and you had a successful TSM session, well covered by the Nal. A great deal of the work that Nal does happens in the background and it's not something that you would necessarily notice right away.
Cool. Thanks for the feedback both of you. I need to keep in mind that nal is working in the background even if I don't feel it or drink more than I intend. It was still 2 drinks less than my last day off so win! I was just a little frustrated with how I felt both yesterday and today. And I knew I was anger drinking and couldn't halt. And I felt like I drank through the nal, but I'm not sure on that one. Overall, my drinking is down around 40% compared to what I estimate I drank pre-tsm. Just need to keep at it and work on that mindfulness
40% is a huge difference! My provider tells me the rest of it takes 6+ months to start to feel like you have this under control and to expect some highs and lows. Seems like such a long time, but I guess makes some sense if we're retraining some neuro pathway that's been worn down over many years! So maybe the idea is to acknowledge and then move past the frustrations and accept that it's all part of a non-linear process. Keep on being diligent with the nal... that's what I keep hearing around here, so I'm saying it too! Have a good weekend!
Thanks jade it's just an emstimate of the exhorbitant amount I used to drink pre-tsm. So I'm not really sure if it's THAT much. I feel like I'm drinking less and especially only having 2 hungover mornings last week lends some credence to that, but I'm still drinking a ton more than is good for the human body. Little steps I guess
Totally. Reading around it seems like it's mostly about little steps, baby steps even... not many (any?) seem to make the giant leap to having complete control of this overnight. Let's both be patient with ourselves.
And in this episode of 2 steps forward 1 step back. I had 15 drinks last night over 7 hours. So quantity wasn't great but pacing was ok. One bad thing was I felt my brain say "I'm good" and I didn't listen. Gonna try again tonight. 2 days off in a row tomorrow so I know it's a dangerous zone..
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